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NSW government to roll out netbooks for every school student…

Well, this news is a little bit old, but just bear with me for a second here.

http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,,25274224-15306,00.html?from=public_rss

THE NSW Department of Education and Training has dished out the first contracts for the $386 million computers-in-schools program, with the spoils going to Lenovo, Microsoft and Adobe.
The computers will be given to over 200,000 government secondary school students in years 9 – 12 and 25,000 teachers across NSW.

Teachers will first receive the laptops in July in order to understand the hardware and software while year 9 students will be handed machines at the start of term 3 in September.

The announcement comes at the end of an extremely competitive tender process, which started last December when NSW called for expressions of interest seeking a compact learning device vendor and a wireless network supplier as part of the federal Government’s $2 billion Digital Education Revolution.

Of course, Year 9 students don’t need notebooks, and I’m completely unconvinced that there is any benefit to having them at all, and they’re not just intrinsically a huge waste of money. But let’s just ignore that point for a moment.

Lenovo has picked up a $150 million contract to provide up to 257,000 IdeaPad S10e laptop personal computers to the teachers and students.

Microsoft and Adobe will be responsible for the software side in a combined deal worth $25.5 million.

Part of this includes a $20 million agreement with Adobe – $12 million from the NSW Government and $8 million from the federal Government. The Microsoft licensing contract forms part of its volume licensing agreement with the Government, the value of which has not been disclosed.

The remaining spend for the computers-in-schools project will be handed out to a wireless network supplier which will be announced in mid-April.

NSW Premier Nathan Rees said the technology would enable school children to collaborate on projects.

“Students and teachers will also be able to set up video conferencing and collaborate on assignments using the built in web cameras and software within the department’s secure network,” Mr Rees said.

“Using this software, students will be able to create videos, edit photos and make presentations for class assignments and projects.”

Is any of that actually going to happen in the classroom? Is any of that actually going to be beneficial or desirable in the classroom, or is it just going to be a huge distraction from the actual learning in the classroom?

“The Adobe software includes Photoshop Elements, Premier Elements, Dreamweaver and Flash.

All the laptops will come with Microsoft’s Windows XP operating system and Office Professional, which includes Word, Excel and PowerPoint and Microsoft’s Internet Explorer.”

Wait, what?

Here’s the actual list of software, which a little birdy helpfully provided me with:

* Adobe Photoshop Elements
* Adobe Premier Elements
* Adobe Acrobat Professional Extended
* Adobe Flash CS4 Professional
* Adobe Dreamweaver CS4
* Adobe Fireworks CS4
* Adobe Contribute CS4
* Adobe Presenter
* Adobe Captivate CS4

* Microsoft Windows XP Professional and utilities
* Microsoft Office 2007 Professional (Word, Excel, Publisher, PowerPoint, OneNote, and Access)

That’s a huge list of extremely expensive software, which these kids don’t need, and is a massive waste of money. Adobe Captivate? I’ve never even heard of it, so how useful and important is it really, for these kids?

How much time is the government expecting to see spent, in the English classroom, the science classroom or the maths classroom, teaching students how to use Flash or Photoshop? Of what possible worthiness could it be? What an absurd waste of money. How much time and effort do you expect the English, science or maths teachers to spend learning how to use these pieces of software, and instructing students in their use?

But there’s a more fundamental problem than that.

The Lenovo IdeaPad S10 machines are running on an Intel Atom 1.6 GHz CPU, with 512 Mb of RAM, a 80 Gb hard drive, and a 10″ screen.

The Atom microprocessor is a very low power consumption, low-performance chip for mobile devices. It’s really not a powerful device at all.
Basically, they’re very low-powered, low-cost netbooks which are not designed to support anything more than very basic web browsing, email, and basic text document editing. They’re very “slow” computers.

I doubt you can even successfully open Adobe Premier on these computers. The majority of the Adobe CS4 suite will simply not be usable at all on these computers, even if it was useful in some way. It’s extremely expensive, completely pointless, and it will not be practically usable.

Even if you had a massive amount of memory, massive amount of hard drive space, and a massive amount of CPU performance in these machines, I wouldn’t bother trying to work with Photoshop at all, on a machine with a 10 inch screen.

You can barely even install a normal version of Windows on machines like this and expect to get any real degree of performance… it’s best if it’s either Linux, or a cut-down, customised Windows install.

In the second half of this year NSW DET will upgrade its fleet to Microsoft’s next-generation operating system, Windows 7.

Ugh. No thanks.

Mr Rees said he wants the computers in schools as soon as possible.

“NSW public schools lead the nation in providing computer resources, giving our teachers and our young people the vital skills they need to help them succeed in our IT savvy world,” he said.

Students will be able to keep their computers after Year 12 if they complete their schooling.

The machines are already extremely low-powered as it is. By the time the students finish Year 12, they’ll be well and truly obsolete.

April 4, 2009 - Posted by Luke Weston | Australia, IT, education, government stupidity, netbooks | | 8 Comments

8 Comments »

  1. $386M / 257000 computers? That’s AUD, I assume? That’s somewhere near $US1100 / computer, which DOES seem expensive for the order of that size. It should be less than half that!

    As for the netbooks, Atoms are not that bad. I have 3-yr old Lenovo T60 laptop, 1.6 GHz, 512 MB upgraded to 2 GB, it is doing ok. Don’t know how it could handle CS4, works fine with CS2. At least they don’t put Vista on it :)

    But – do the kids really CS4 package almost in it’s entirety – hell no.

    Another lost opportunity to support open-source alternatives.

    Comment by Liquidcarbon | May 6, 2009 | Reply

  2. > That’s somewhere near $US1100 … it should be less than half that!

    These days the hardware is only a small part of the total cost – as the Federal Government did initially by promising enough funds to only pay for the computers, you can’t deploy thousands of machines without the accompanying infrastructure (from networks to training to tech support). As a parent, taxpayer, and engineer/geek I think it’s poor use of money better spent on things that are /known/ to provide a beneficial educational outcome. Absent from all of these political promises is any concrete or even hazy evidence to support the huge expense.

    Comment by Ben | June 8, 2009 | Reply

  3. Actually the screen is 10.1 inches, it has 2gb of ram and 160gb HD so it would be more than enough to run all the programs. As a year 9 student I actually think we need the netbooks because we do need them for creating videos for English, arts and possibly history and we will need to edit photos because I am doing Photography and Digital Media.

    Comment by Anonymous | July 5, 2009 | Reply

    • Yes, but have you tried doing photo editing on a computer with a screen that size? Also, I would like to see someone try to open something like Flash on those computers. Besides the point that they will be obsolete in about a year, most teachers don’t know how to use the IT resources we have today. I think it is a complete waste of money and would be better spent elsewhere

      Comment by angus | July 9, 2009 | Reply

  4. Trust me year 9’s do need Laptop’s with all of the software as you have stated above. most of our subjects now are set up around computer programs such as photo shop for Visual Arts and of course Word for documents. i agree that most the programs stated above we do not need and i havent even heard of some of the programs! i for one can tell you that my school which is in the country about 5 hours away from Sydney, have not even got these laptops yet (although we havent even gone into the 3rd term yet but i shall post agian when and if we get the laptops) i would of thought that the country students would get the benifit of getting the laptops more that city kids but there should still be that equallty among all students around Australia. i am still very Optmistic on whether my school in year 9 will actually get one. i go to a private school so does that mean that only Public schools will get the laptops? i hope not because we deserve as much right a kids in the public education. i have a lot of friends that go to public high schools and i went to a public primary school so i am not against the public education. just see it in my shoes, these laptops will help with my HSC in the coming years and if this is one of the ways that kids will stay on at school until year 12 then that is a good thing is it not? i ask you if you had a child or if you do think: my Child would love to have a laptop to help with studying and use that laptop instead of being on the computer doing assy’s when you need to do tax or maybe a word document for minitues but you can’t because your child is on the computer slaving over an assy every week! if you are wondering “well you must have a laptop already because your typing on it” well you are wrong i am on my mum’s computer and i think that those kids that already have laptops should not be given one unless the laptop is really old. about 5 of my friends already have laptops an wouldn’t care if they didn’t get a laptop from the goverment. i hope i do get a laptop and as i have said before i will post again when an if i do get a laptop.
    i didn’t wish to offend anyone and if i have i am sorry.
    thankyou for reading this and for the poster of this article thyankyou for the infomation.

    Year 9 student

    Comment by Year 9 Student | July 22, 2009 | Reply

  5. I’m am a self-confessed computer geek and am telling you I know you need photoshop etc. for school subjects but high-end programs like that are not designed to be run on that kind of hardware, if they do run. Private schools will not get one unfortunately but what they wish them to do is not viable. If they came out and said all they would do is basic word processing and the internet I can understand that, but they are saying they’ll be able to photoshop etc. Basically the government is wasting their money on something that will be obsolete in a year and just wants to look like they are doing something.
    i don’t want to offend anyone just telling what it really is and my point of view

    Comment by angus | July 23, 2009 | Reply

  6. i’m in year nine and yeah, okay, it’s cool having a laptop and all and, yeah, it’s important and beneficial for our learning and education etc etc.

    HOWEVER, relative to all the other issues that come along with running a country, all that money could actually be spent elsewhere. and even if you wanna inject it into education, i reckon all that money could go into:
    a) getting more teachers ergo halving class sizes or
    b) invest in uni students as they’re the people who actually got off their backsides to bother getting somewhere near a career

    and there. we. go.

    Comment by year niner | July 25, 2009 | Reply

  7. Hi, I just want to point out something.
    Windows 7 has been proven to run faster, and to use less resources, than XP in most curcumstances. I have been using Windows 7 RC for quite sometime now and it still runs fine, even with Adobe Design Premium CS4 and Autodesk Maya 2008 (For those who don’t know what it is, Maya is a 3D modeling and annimating piece of software which is extremely resource intensive). My laptop is also over five years old so certainly less powerful than a netbook with an atom processor. My only real problems with netbooks are that the screens are a bit small and they don’t have a DVD drive.

    Comment by oli | August 26, 2009 | Reply


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